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New Technical Problem - Dead Monotron Delay

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2020 7:48 am
by The Mysterious Creep
Yep, I need tech help again, with another piece of equipment I actually bought at the same time as the tape recorder. I've recently moved to a dorm and brought my Monotron Delay with me. When I left, it wasn't working because I'd apparently left it on and killed the batteries. I figured I'd get new ones on campus and it would work again. Lo and behold, it didn't work again. Doesn't light up, doesn't make sound, nothing. There was no leakage from the batteries, it just doesn't turn on. Did I fry it? Is it suffering from atmospheric effects from being left in the garage overnight? I don't know what the problem is and it's the only gear I brought with me besides my laptop.

Re: New Technical Problem - Dead Monotron Delay

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2020 8:04 am
by crochambeau
Can you confirm the batteries are actually good, and oriented correctly in the device?

Re: New Technical Problem - Dead Monotron Delay

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2020 10:51 am
by The Mysterious Creep
crochambeau wrote: Sat Aug 29, 2020 8:04 am Can you confirm the batteries are actually good, and oriented correctly in the device?
I just bought the new ones this morning, AAA alkalines like the manufacturer suggested, and while I am stupid I'm not stupid enough to not check the positive and negative terminals. I definitely put them in right.

Re: New Technical Problem - Dead Monotron Delay

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2020 11:26 am
by crochambeau
Have you ANYTHING else that takes a AAA battery? You want to confirm the ones you have contain a charge.

Could also be a bit of material found its way into the mix, so pulling the batteries, scuffing/wiping the ends of them, putting your eyes on the contacts in the synth for funkiness, re-inserting the batteries, and then slapping the unit against your leg once it's back together might have you sorted.

To answer your question about the garage, I think it unlikely, but anything is possible.

I'm stupid too, no worries, we're all friends here.

Re: New Technical Problem - Dead Monotron Delay

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2020 11:46 am
by NoiseWiki
The Mysterious Creep wrote: Sat Aug 29, 2020 10:51 am
crochambeau wrote: Sat Aug 29, 2020 8:04 am Can you confirm the batteries are actually good, and oriented correctly in the device?
I just bought the new ones this morning, AAA alkalines like the manufacturer suggested, and while I am stupid I'm not stupid enough to not check the positive and negative terminals. I definitely put them in right.
I've never encountered this problem with the Monotron .. I mean they seem pretty durable except for the headphone jack.

So try zeroing everything out. If you can test the batteries in another device just to be sure they aren't DOA.

Otherwise try also setting all controls to halfway and don't have anything plugged into it.

Re: New Technical Problem - Dead Monotron Delay

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2020 12:13 pm
by The Mysterious Creep
crochambeau wrote: Sat Aug 29, 2020 11:26 am Have you ANYTHING else that takes a AAA battery? You want to confirm the ones you have contain a charge.

Could also be a bit of material found its way into the mix, so pulling the batteries, scuffing/wiping the ends of them, putting your eyes on the contacts in the synth for funkiness, re-inserting the batteries, and then slapping the unit against your leg once it's back together might have you sorted.

To answer your question about the garage, I think it unlikely, but anything is possible.

I'm stupid too, no worries, we're all friends here.
The batteries helpfully turned out to have little power testers built in activated by pressing a button on the side and the negative terminal. They showed enough charge to work, at least 3/4 full. Checked for any obstructions, tried different combinations, nothing.

I've seen a report of a report that running out the batteries can take the Monotron out with them, but I've also seen that disputed.

Re: New Technical Problem - Dead Monotron Delay

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2020 1:22 pm
by crochambeau
I don't buy the idea that running a battery flat is going to do damage. I have been wrong before, but I just don't see batteries being a culprit unless they're shitting their insides out on your PCB.

It's at this point that I would be busting out a screwdriver and having a look see on the insides of the Korg. YMMV

Another option if wiggling the pots and seeing if that does anything, but I'm just stabbing in the dark here.

Re: New Technical Problem - Dead Monotron Delay

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2020 1:22 pm
by NoiseWiki
The Mysterious Creep wrote: Sat Aug 29, 2020 12:13 pm I've seen a report of a report that running out the batteries can take the Monotron out with them, but I've also seen that disputed.
Never heard that and find it a highly dubious claim

Re: New Technical Problem - Dead Monotron Delay

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2020 1:24 pm
by NoiseWiki
crochambeau wrote: Sat Aug 29, 2020 1:22 pm I don't buy the idea that running a battery flat is going to do damage. I have been wrong before, but I just don't see batteries being a culprit unless they're shitting their insides out on your PCB.

It's at this point that I would be busting out a screwdriver and having a look see on the insides of the Korg. YMMV

Another option if wiggling the pots and seeing if that does anything, but I'm just stabbing in the dark here.
yea the next thing I'd do is open the case and look for anything unusual. One time a friend of mines computer wouldn't turn on because a mouse had peed on the motherboard

Re: New Technical Problem - Dead Monotron Delay

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2020 1:48 pm
by The Mysterious Creep
Schematic is online to reference, so I guess I'll have to get a screwdriver.