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[RUBBISH]

So the view of PE largely seems to be noise + vocals, so for the follow up question: Guitar? There's some precedent for this, Sutcliffe Jugend used guitar as one source on many of their recordings, but I've never seen any other PE using it. Obviously it tends to drive people down more of a drone/acid rock/free improv track, but there's some use of it in industrial related fuckery (Matt Bower's Total comes to mind). Any other PE acts that use guitar as a noise source, and do you think would people be turned off by a guitar-abuse-and-shoegazey-drone-dominated PE act?

No. Nope. I mean maybe on the best day ever maybe guitar...probably not but it could happen but probably won't happen type of maybe.

Try it and see what happens.
If its good its good.

I really don't think what equipment used matters so much as other factors like is it noisey, aggressive and focused on extreme ideas or subject matter.

So hardcore punk and more extreme metal is PE?

The metal band REVENGE kinda PE.
Try them.

[NoiseWiki]

So hardcore punk and more extreme metal is PE?

The metal band REVENGE kinda PE.
Try them.

Those are genres that are already defined by their musical elements. Those musical elements are absent when something is "noisey" rather than distorted or simply loud and obnoxious.

But yea there has been alot of cross over from black metal.. the venn diagram definitely overlaps on racism.

[The Mysterious Creep]

No. Nope. I mean maybe on the best day ever maybe guitar...probably not but it could happen but probably won't happen type of maybe.

Try it and see what happens.
If its good its good.

I really don't think what equipment used matters so much as other factors like is it noisey, aggressive and focused on extreme ideas or subject matter.

So hardcore punk and more extreme metal is PE?

The metal band REVENGE kinda PE.
Try them.

Revenge the gnarly blackened Grindcore band or another Revenge further down the search results? Because just pulling up a random Grind Revenge record, I can kinda see it.

The main thing driving me actually was I Am A Lake Of Burning Orchids. Summer in my Veins is synthesizer based, but not really in the traditional PE vein: There are drones, and it's clipped to hell and back, but it's really melodic and loop-based with a kind of "harsh ambient" sound to it. I've also been into noisy shoegaze-inspired ambient/drone via Jefre Cantu-Ledesma's Love is a Stream, as well as some prettier tracks by Navicon Torture Technologies (particularly The Stars and The Scars), and when all those trains of thought crossed along with my one physical synth being out of commission...

[NoiseWiki]

The main thing driving me actually was I Am A Lake Of Burning Orchids. Summer in my Veins is synthesizer based, but not really in the traditional PE vein: There are drones, and it's clipped to hell and back, but it's really melodic and loop-based with a kind of "harsh ambient" sound to it.

I checked out this track.. I dunno.. calling it really melodic is a bit if a stretch .. about halfway through the track the on key notes seem to go away and then there's alot of yelling and noise and that standard wavering vocal effect kicks in. Seems like PE to me. Although I didn't try to understand the lyrics or look them up the name of project and the track title are a bit mushy for my tastes. Maybe its harsh emo joking but the guy behind Lovers Farewell or whatever it was called ruined those kind of romantic titles for me by being a gigantic douchebag. Anyway he identified with PE then went full racist twat

Also there's plenty of synths in PE so that certainly is not a disqualifier

[The Mysterious Creep]

The main thing driving me actually was I Am A Lake Of Burning Orchids. Summer in my Veins is synthesizer based, but not really in the traditional PE vein: There are drones, and it's clipped to hell and back, but it's really melodic and loop-based with a kind of "harsh ambient" sound to it.

I checked out this track.. I dunno.. calling it really melodic is a bit if a stretch .. about halfway through the track the on key notes seem to go away and then there's alot of yelling and noise and that standard wavering vocal effect kicks in. Seems like PE to me. Although I didn't try to understand the lyrics or look them up the name of project and the track title are a bit mushy for my tastes. Maybe its harsh emo joking but the guy behind Lovers Farewell or whatever it was called ruined those kind of romantic titles for me by being a gigantic douchebag. Anyway he identified with PE then went full racist twat

Also there's plenty of synths in PE so that certainly is not a disqualifier

I never heard of To The Lovers, Farewell (I'm guessing that's the guy based on Google) before this. Shame he's a knob, though what little I could find of his recorded oeuvre suggests it's no great loss to me personally.


Synths are the standard in PE for sure, I was pointing out that I Am A Lake Of Burning Orchids (henceforth shortened to Lake) wasn't doing it with guitars like I plan to but with the more traditional instrument (though in a different way). "Summer in my Veins" the song is maybe not the best representation of Summer in my Veins the EP, "My First Kiss Was in the Rain. It's Gone Downhill Since Then." and "Garden of Light II: Morning Song" are probably better examples of the looping synth melodies. It's probably more melodic than I'd have the skill to dive into, I'm mostly a chord strummer with a stompbox fetish and a granular processor, but at very least the idea is there. Lake and Ramleh are two of my big industrial-related artists, particularly Hole in the Heart and Summer in my Veins. Most Lake material is actually more ambient or more harsh noise, Summer's the only Lake record with screaming to my knowledge.

Describing Summer in my Veins as "harsh emo" wouldn't be inaccurate. There's ongoing debate on Rate Your Music as to whether or not it should be tagged as Screamo. It's definitely somewhat mushy, but as a fan of Screamo and other forms of maudlin rock I don't mind that at all. I don't think I'd be going full-on romantic, because I want to do more topics than just love and romance isn't a central part of my life anyway, but there's at least a desire for melancholy rather than foaming hatred or detached sadism. I wrote some lyrics, I'll record an example at the first opportunity.

[RUBBISH]

Again I say...maybe. Who knows try it out and let's see what happens.

I do know from personal experience that having death metal type vocals on a PE type track can be bothersome to some PE cunts...I mean purists... no that's not the word...ah..PE fashion victims that need to break out of thier comfort zone.

I wouldn't worry about what's already defined....worry about defining things for your own self.

So I say go nuts and what ever happens happens.

My original hesitstion on this guitar situation is based on a long standing believe by some people that guitars aren't really noise or that use of guitar leads to sad dirty haired cut off jean wearing noodling jams.

[NoiseWiki]

The thing is if its in the ballpark and the artists says its PE then it probably is. Its not like when Naomi keep singing rap talking over prerecorded music at INC.. that wasn't noise even if it was bad or irritating.

[RUBBISH]

I made this about 10 years ago.
Made a whole slew of tracks similar to this.
Is it PE?

RUBBISH - lawless by nature.


And this...about being a werewolf.
I put this in the PE area of things more so than other things I do



Where's that deathkey impression you did Ad?

[NoiseWiki]

Where's that deathkey impression you did Ad?

Hmm I dunno.. there's a track on noise lottery called first attempt at power electronics or something

[RUBBISH]

Where's that deathkey impression you did Ad?

Hmm I dunno.. there's a track on noise lottery called first attempt at power electronics or something

It was just amusing that all it took was some German lyrics and Harsh Noise.

PE seems to have a formula that's really easy for people with musical backgrounds to pick up. In particular heavy metal backgrounds. Theres nothing wrong with the formula as it seems to work rather well.
I just wish more people from different musical backgrounds tried thier hand at it. It could be horrible and funny or it could be great.