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Soloman Tump wrote: Fri May 13, 2022 1:37 am My current laptop runs W10 but keeps wanting me to upgrade to W11 (whats the diference apart from the REVOLUTIONARYSTARTBUTTONMOVESTOTHEMIDDLEOFTHETASKBAR?)
Heh.. that's like when I installed widows 8 which seemed more or less the same as 7 but they had made all the apps go fullscreen in a tablet mode by default which was annoying as hell fortunately you could turn off and there was an extension to fix some other mistakes they made
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amishrobots wrote: Thu May 12, 2022 10:33 pm
I am trying to install an OS on the desktop. Right now it has no OS, just a blank virgin SSD. I can make it work by plugging in my old LiveUSB of Lubuntu, which has the option for a permanent install, but for some reason that fails. Not sure if it is because the version is so old or what. Can't seem to convince it to create a new LiveUSB either. Not even sure if it recognizes the SSD, not sure what the heck is going on.
I use Ubuntu Studio (xfce) but I doubt that will help you here.

I would start by confirming the machine sees the SSD. I think the OS can run in RAM if there's room, and it does not make sense that you can fire the machine up on a LiveUSB and not make that instance permanent because of outdated version - so if you can wake the machine up with it I'd scrutinize the long term memory.
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Re: Any Linux Users Here?

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crochambeau wrote: Fri May 13, 2022 6:47 am
amishrobots wrote: Thu May 12, 2022 10:33 pm
I am trying to install an OS on the desktop. Right now it has no OS, just a blank virgin SSD. I can make it work by plugging in my old LiveUSB of Lubuntu, which has the option for a permanent install, but for some reason that fails. Not sure if it is because the version is so old or what. Can't seem to convince it to create a new LiveUSB either. Not even sure if it recognizes the SSD, not sure what the heck is going on.
I use Ubuntu Studio (xfce) but I doubt that will help you here.

I would start by confirming the machine sees the SSD. I think the OS can run in RAM if there's room, and it does not make sense that you can fire the machine up on a LiveUSB and not make that instance permanent because of outdated version - so if you can wake the machine up with it I'd scrutinize the long term memory.
Yeah, that's kinda what I thought. I've pretty much forgotten most of the terminal commands I've ever learned. I need to go look up some really basic shit, like how to spit out a list of storage devices. I should probably at least go do that now.

The last time I tried the permanent install, it seemed to be doing it's thing for quite a while, and then just crashed, I had chosen the option to update during the install, so I thought maybe that may have caused some kind of issue.
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ok, wtf is going on here?
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Are you fucking serious??? you want me to try doing the exact thing I just did, in order to try and fix the error that doing that did???
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Stack exchange can be helpful for some oddities, if you're running stable hardware. Here is a tale of my most recent computer adventure:

I'm running rather old hardware (ancient, by modern standards), originally designed as a work station. In order to operate well, it requires a very specific type of RAM and specific graphics processor - which was unknown to me while originally chasing issues, which ranged across a spectrum of nonsense. Over the years, "upgrades" had been installed (more RAM, a "better" GPU, etc.), each required a little configuration. Then came time to just nuke & pave, my performance had been dogshit so a clean install should set things right, right? Wrong. All of the massaging that had been executed to make things work previously completely went away - like black screen after BIOS away. Completely fucking bricked unless I adjusted the boot instructions in a very detrimental manner.

Every time I approached the internet for help the advice or suggestions I got were not helpful, because my hardware was the issue - not the firmware or software. Finally I pulled product data on my machine and learned it required specific RAM and was originally offered with a specific range of GPUs, only one of which being by a manufacturer that was not NVIDIA (the drivers for which I had been banging my head against a wall for long enough to just seek out the other).

Installed the specific RAM and the OE GPU, undid all of my manual terminal boot fuckery, and suddenly I had a solid machine.

Of course, if your hardware was aimed at the home computer market, or built within the last ten years, it may not be so fucking crotchety - but if you're surfing on industry outcast or repurposed e-waste it can be very worthwhile to dig into the lineage a bit.
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crochambeau wrote: Sat May 14, 2022 9:08 am
Of course, if your hardware was aimed at the home computer market, or built within the last ten years, it may not be so fucking crotchety - but if you're surfing on industry outcast or repurposed e-waste it can be very worthwhile to dig into the lineage a bit.
did you read what I listed for hardware?
Just to be clear; it is all fairly new stuff; very current; although it did take me about 2 years to accumulate, and I did skimp out on the vid card, I'm rather proud of what I put together; at least it should be a solid system.

as far as I can tell, the two big problems I've been having is that the RPI with which I've been trying to create a bootable USB stick was simply out of drive space, and the bootable live USB version of Lubuntu which I have running on the new machine is hopelessly out of date version of that OS.

Last night I cleared a little bit of space on the RPI, (which was running off a measly 16gb SD card) enough that I could actually use it to create a new raspbian OS on a 128gb SD card, which I am currently using.

Hopefully I can use the new Raspbian to make a new live USB stick to install a whole new OS on the new main computer. wish me luck!

I'm really hoping to run AntiX on the new puter, because I just like the idea of an "antifascist Operating system" , though I may fall back to the newest version of Lubuntu, which I have always liked in the past. At least AntiX looks similar in it's simplicity.
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amishrobots wrote: Sun May 15, 2022 4:17 am
did you read what I listed for hardware?
AMD Ryzen 5 3600,
Asus X570-plus (wifi)
32gb Corsair RAM
1tb Corsair SSD
My tale was more geared toward a general make sure everything is designed to work together. I don't know anything about your hardware.

With respect to my hardware, which is what I know about here I can say the following: My RAM is DDR2-800 DIMM, what I did not know until I dug deeper is that my machine is spec'd for UNBUFFERED DDR-2-800 DIMM in either x8 or x16 width, so everything I thought was compatible beforehand was actually working against me. Similar special needs on my GPU.

My point is/was that if you have a similar gotcha sort that first. Sounds like you don't? I cannot say, I'm not doing the research on it.

Should be able to run a disk check without OS installed: https://www.simplified.guide/linux/disk-error-check
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Re: Any Linux Users Here?

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crochambeau wrote: Sun May 15, 2022 3:08 pm
amishrobots wrote: Sun May 15, 2022 4:17 am
did you read what I listed for hardware?
AMD Ryzen 5 3600,
Asus X570-plus (wifi)
32gb Corsair RAM
1tb Corsair SSD
My tale was more geared toward a general make sure everything is designed to work together. I don't know anything about your hardware.

With respect to my hardware, which is what I know about here I can say the following: My RAM is DDR2-800 DIMM, what I did not know until I dug deeper is that my machine is spec'd for UNBUFFERED DDR-2-800 DIMM in either x8 or x16 width, so everything I thought was compatible beforehand was actually working against me. Similar special needs on my GPU.

My point is/was that if you have a similar gotcha sort that first. Sounds like you don't? I cannot say, I'm not doing the research on it.

Should be able to run a disk check without OS installed: https://www.simplified.guide/linux/disk-error-check


I'll try to keep this in mind for when it's useful; right now I am cooking eggs.
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