occultism for beginners

[JLIAT]

This is Chartres... and then there are the rose windows... some theories relate the Knights Templars having knowledge of Yoga etc...

[WhiteWarlock]

Happy Valentines Day!
aka
Lupercalia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lupercalia
That wikipedia entry is actually wrong...
Lupercalia is the historic Roman feast of orgies in sacrificed Wolf's blood(thus the name)
& the "lottery" for sex partners
go figure that has been omitted...

[RUBBISH]

This is Chartres... and then there are the rose windows... some theories relate the Knights Templars having knowledge of Yoga etc...

Yoga means knowledge.
There are reasons for the physical elements well beyond exercise and stress reduction...I was told that the physical part is to help integrate information and allow you to use to use the information properly...like say traveling to another star system non physically.


William walker Atkinson as Yogi Ramacharaka wrote some good easily accessible books on the various form of yoga
The Hindu-Yogi Science Of Breath (A Complete Manual of the Oriental Breathing Philosophy of Physical, Mental, Psychic and Spiritual Development). 1903.
Fourteen Lessons in Yogi Philosophy and Oriental Occultism. 1904.
Advanced Course in Yogi Philosophy and Oriental Occultism. 1905.
Hatha Yoga or the Yogi Philosophy of Physical Well-Being (With Numerous Exercises, Etc.) 1904.
Raja Yoga or Mental Development (A Series of Lessons in Raja Yoga). 1906.
Gnani Yoga (A Series of Lessons in Gnani Yoga). 1907.

[JLIAT]

I don't buy your 'cant build pyramids' they are basically stone blocks piled up, and why should anyone remake a pyramid? As for the rest, 'how' and 'why' well yes 'allegedly', but there are lots of 'mysteries' unanswered questions, which prompts another, why are people so fascinated with these that often are used to subtlety or not 'undermine' science and contemporary conceptions? Strikes me its more a psychological need for a belief in something other than contemporary rationalism and materialism, once supplied by religion. As for astral projection, or any of the other stuff, evidence that can be checked please. At the end of the day the difference to what life is, from all these things, unlike technology, actual space travel, nuclear bombs, computers etc. is as I say psychological, but if , as Lennon says, it gets you through the (dark) night (of the soul) its alright.

Though lurking there, is the idea that ordinary humans could not do such things, which kind of lets us off the hook. You look at a great cathedral and wonder why we don't do stuff like that any more... its a cop out to say we never did. I've seen the copy of Michelangelo's David in the V&A, one's immediate response is its impossible for one man to make without power tools... I guess given the horrors of the last century and capitalist materialism a general loss of self confidence in humanity is justified.

The Milgram experiment showed how 'ordinary people' could do terrible things, pity they could not also show how the same people could build cathedrals, though the USA despite lots of bad things put a man on the moon. (but of course now we know it was faked???)

[WhiteWarlock]

[RUBBISH]

I don't buy your 'cant build pyramids' they are basically stone blocks piled up, and why should anyone remake a pyramid? As for the rest, 'how' and 'why' well yes 'allegedly', but there are lots of 'mysteries' unanswered questions, which prompts another, why are people so fascinated with these that often are used to subtlety or not 'undermine' science and contemporary conceptions? Strikes me its more a psychological need for a belief in something other than contemporary rationalism and materialism, once supplied by religion. As for astral projection, or any of the other stuff, evidence that can be checked please. At the end of the day the difference to what life is, from all these things, unlike technology, actual space travel, nuclear bombs, computers etc. is as I say psychological, but if , as Lennon says, it gets you through the (dark) night (of the soul) its alright.

Though lurking there, is the idea that ordinary humans could not do such things, which kind of lets us off the hook. You look at a great cathedral and wonder why we don't do stuff like that any more... its a cop out to say we never did. I've seen the copy of Michelangelo's David in the V&A, one's immediate response is its impossible for one man to make without power tools... I guess given the horrors of the last century and capitalist materialism a general loss of self confidence in humanity is justified.

The Milgram experiment showed how 'ordinary people' could do terrible things, pity they could not also show how the same people could build cathedrals, though the USA despite lots of bad things put a man on the moon. (but of course now we know it was faked???)

Ain't selling anything so...not sure where you are but this isn't an idea shop...no sales will happen.

I never made claim aliens did anything...you made that claim.
You are making the claim that I we said humans didnt do this..what the fuck james why are doing that?
This is about the occult...its all about what humans do or could do.
Why are you obfuscating this disscussion?
Why do you come and chime in on something that you already said you dont believe in?
Motherfucker...stop masturbating here god damn. Rather at least start your own thread to wank in.
Yeah I notice you ignored the yoga comment that I commented that goes unanswered...maybe cause you aren't as smart as you think.(obviously You are better educated than I am but then again regurgitation of memorized rhetoric is only good for arguing or being an 'educator') You are good at arguing ill give ya that.
No one said anything about science being invalid.
You are here starting shit aren't you..you like arguing don't you.
That motherfucker bit is gonna bother you isnt it?
Motherfucker please.

Where are the machines to build the pyramid today.
Should be easy to find info about constrution equipment online right...do it.
Serious you don't answer this...boy...I'm gonna ride you.

You ever move any large stones...just 'one man' stones like for a simple rock wall?
I'm gonna guess no...am I wrong?

You ever done any physical labor...more than around the house stuff.
Probably again...no...right?

I get this from people who have never worked 'a real job'...trees...do you know how much weight and work are involved in removing one tree let alone with just unpowered hand tools?
No clue of the amount of work involved.

And no there is no device or no procedures to check asteal projection Scientificly because how would YOU anyone make or design any of what's needed when YOU they dont believe in it...come on man that makes no sense..your bias would ruin any of that anyhow.

You dont get the answers you like..tough
You get questions you can't answer..good.
You need to understand that YOU do not understand every thing that some things are beyond reason and you will never grasp thier meaning.
You are not in control here nor do you have the knowledge or experience to really comment on this topic and I find that hilarious.

[RUBBISH]

This is why some things are occulted.
Its impossible to discuss this topic with certain types of people.
They ruin it with the mundane.

[JLIAT]

I never made claim of aliens did anything...you made that claim.

Sure I cited a book 'Chariots of the Gods' which claimed Aliens were involved... and there are others, I never claimed that you did, I did though say some of these seemingly impossible feats for modern technology to achieve are suspect. Sorry if this annoyed you.

You are making the claim that I said humans didnt do this..what the fuck james why are doing that?
Why are obfuscating this disscussion?

I've made no such claims. If you came to that conclusion i'm sorry. As for obfuscating xe2x80x93 I followed the drift of the thread from Hinduism... by the OP.

Why do you come and xhime in on something that you already said you dont believe in?

Not sure what you mean, I don't believe the pyramids etc were made by anyone other than humans.

Motherfucker...stop masturbating here god damn. Rather at least start your own thread to wank in.
Yeah I notice you yoga comment that I commented on goes unanswered...maybe cause you aren't as smart as you think. You are good at arguing ill give ya that.

The yoga comment needn't an answer, I said the idea was that The Nights Templars brought back such knowledge which influenced the medieval cathedral builders, it was a theory I came across in a lecture.

Where are the machines to build the pyramid today.
Should be easy to find info about constrution equipment online right...do it.

My point was there is no need to build pyramids now, so no need for machines, not that they were used for the originals. All manual labour. Though these days humans build things like Saturn 5s that go to the moon, and the LHC.

You ever move any large stones...just 'one man' stones like for a simple rock wall?

You ever done any physical labor...more than around the house stuff.

Sure, I think you mistake who I am. Shifted large stones, large amounts of earth, cast iron fire places etc. Apart from house (3 times) re-wire, plastering, brick laying, concrete floors, plumbing etc. Chimey removal etc. My work is 'rustic' but cheap. And my wife is very good a mortar mixing.

Please don't confuse me with Luke - who came from a middle class family and yes probably never worked physically ever. My background is working class, single parent etc. Strick Victorian grandparent, though at least we had satiation, unlike some of my cousins! So please don't think i'm some middle class public school boy.

I get this from people who have never worked 'a real job'...trees...do you know how much weight and work are involved in removing one tree let alone with just unpowered hand tools?

Yep. Getting the roots up is tricky... I trend these days to use power tools. I cant imagine how I coped before I had an angle grinder. Floors are killers, screeding, and laying pan tiles, I did my back damage, and managed to fall through a ceiling, though only a black eye and general cuts.

And no there is no device or no procedures to check asteal projection Scientificly because how would YOU make or design any of what's needed when YOU dont believe in it...come on man that makes no sense..your bias would ruin any of that anyhow.

I met lots into Astral Projection. And magic crystals. If they say they have done this, and you say I cant check it out, fine. I remain unconvinced.

[RUBBISH]

jilat

TLDR

I refuse to read your comment.
How's that buddy.
Ignored.

[JLIAT]

jilat

TLDR

I refuse to read your comment.
How's that buddy.
Ignored.

Pity, you seem to be talking to me under a misapprehension of who I am and what i'm about.