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is that a terrible analogy, or just a cliche? i can't tell.
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Social_Drift wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:32 am is that a terrible analogy, or just a cliche? i can't tell.
Attempt to get back on topic.

HASH NOISE WALLS.
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JLIAT wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:56 am i'm merely a messenger.
Then who sent you?
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a person who carries a message - piece of information...
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JLIAT wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 7:03 am a person who carries a message - piece of information...
The story from the phrase don't shoot the messenger the messenger was sent by someone. IE From one war party to another.

Sounds like you are saying it's possible for the messenger to carry a piece of information that is meaningless.. that's a bit of a paradox I'd say.
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NoiseWiki wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 7:31 am
JLIAT wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 7:03 am a person who carries a message - piece of information...
The story from the phrase don't shoot the messenger the messenger was sent by someone. IE From one war party to another.

Sounds like you are saying it's possible for the messenger to carry a piece of information that is meaningless.. that's a bit of a paradox I'd say.
No - to carry information about something isn't the same thing as the thing. The label "Poison" isn't poisonous, but if true the contents is. The word 'hot' isn't hot, the word red isn't red.

No paradox unless you conflate being with meaning. Which you seem to?

The contents of Vomir's noise is meaningless. Here is a meaningful message "There is absolutely no message whatsoever in my work;"

You think he is joking, a prankster xe2x80xa6 because he wears a bag? Well I guess its a standard reaction... and you might be right- all non representational art could be a lie a joke... I happen to think not. Maybe you do? For you it must all mean something , i.e. reopresent something.

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Re: HNW question

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JLIAT wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 6:02 am
Social_Drift wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:32 am is that a terrible analogy, or just a cliche? i can't tell.
Attempt to get back on topic.

HASH NOISE WALLS.

Maybe this thread has hit the harsh noise wall...hah

Set out a 3 HNW related points that we can come to terms and resolution with.
That way we can maybe define some elements of HNW...open ended discussion isn't gonna allow us to define or resolve anything....although again this topic is it self becoming harsh text wall

Or not...
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RUBBISH wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 7:57 am
JLIAT wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 6:02 am
Social_Drift wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:32 am is that a terrible analogy, or just a cliche? i can't tell.
Attempt to get back on topic.

HASH NOISE WALLS.

Maybe this thread has hit the harsh noise wall...hah

Set out a 3 HNW related points that we can come to terms and resolution with.
That way we can maybe define some elements of HNW...open ended discussion isn't gonna allow us to define or resolve anything....although again this topic is it self becoming harsh text wall

Or not...

1. "I'd encourage anyone who is interested in finding out more about noise who hasn't listened to it before just to take a radio, tune it to between two stations and turn up the volume."


2. " There is absolutely no message whatsoever in my work; "


3. "the harsh noise wall is militantly pure in its non-representation"
"Cage's 4'33" = 273 seconds xe2x88x92273.15xc2xb0 C = absolute zero."
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