Uh what? Sure there are cases where employees can own stock or have some other profit sharing but it is rare as far as I know for them to be a majority and control let alone own the business. I don't know who led you to believe that.
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What the heck are you going on about? Fyi maybe you've heard about wealth disparity. 1% has the majority of wealth.. at any rate even if the average American was worth 90k that does not mean they as a worker own the means of productionJLIAT wrote: ↑Thu Feb 20, 2020 8:56 amJeff Bezos ( $132000000000) 132 billion Population of the USA = 323000000 divide 132 billion by 323 million give 408.6...RUBBISH wrote: ↑Thu Feb 20, 2020 8:25 amI don't know anyone that owns stock in the company they work for...even my older well invested BMA having realitive.
Yes there are more non hereditary wealthy people now but in America the top 3 richest people own more than 90 percent od the population...so yeah there are 30 million well off people but 300 million not well off people...belief is the problem...its occulted...the actions of the super rich. Yea we see and known of their public face but they live in a different world than us...500 million dollar hydrogen powered yachts??
Their own space programs...
is my maths correct, how much is the average American worth $408.6 ?
Americans have an average net worth of $97,300 x 323000000 =
31,427,900,000,000 = 31 trillion?
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Does your math factor in for nepotism?
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Go finger paint a Picaso with your noise if you want...
or have a computer render it into Noise...
or both...
Who the fuck cares...
Noise tends being "instant gratification" first and only take record & people could care less...
personally fucking despise playing impromptu noise shows anymore yet that's me...
been there done that more than enough times...
it's not satisfying for me at all anymore...
HNW is like being stuck on some default basic annoying cliche setting...
with a bag over your head
Dude you should have stuck with "proto-industrial-SpaceRock"
(and not sold your VCS3 for pennys)
~shrug~
or have a computer render it into Noise...
or both...
Who the fuck cares...
Noise tends being "instant gratification" first and only take record & people could care less...
personally fucking despise playing impromptu noise shows anymore yet that's me...
been there done that more than enough times...
it's not satisfying for me at all anymore...
HNW is like being stuck on some default basic annoying cliche setting...
with a bag over your head
Dude you should have stuck with "proto-industrial-SpaceRock"
(and not sold your VCS3 for pennys)
~shrug~
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Re: what noise IS
The above statement appears to be posing as being factual, rather than hysterical. It also seems to want to make sense, (of politics & noise's motivations...). So here is the problem, I should say your problem, if its your problem, selfish hysterics, i'll ignore it, if not you've not contradicted yourself, just elevated logic and reason above politics and noise.
Social_Drift, Luke hinted at the same thing, "good fun -- using sequencer -- but no clear set idea of what to do. " as if Art, music is given its framework by logic and reason.
I disagree.
In the case of Noise, rationality lets us plug the gear in, make the gear even, but then the irrational takes over. Art - in postmodernism may now be just be ' hysterics and selfishly irrational'... but that was not always the case. It once expressed the phenomena of 'being', which is why it was often considered blasphemous and dangerous (to rationality).
"Conceptual Artists are mystics rather than rationalists. They leap to conclusions that logic cannot reach. Rational judgements repeat rational judgements. Illogical judgements lead to new experience. "
" selfish and pathological theatrics." Maybe, but Chartres cathedral a selfish and pathological theatrics. - I disagree.
Art once was about standing on the shoulders of giants, why we had art schools, with selfish and pathological theatrics there is no need.
As for good and bad, well they are to be ignored, followed or overcome. ?
"Cage's 4'33" = 273 seconds xe2x88x92273.15xc2xb0 C = absolute zero."
Re: what noise IS
xe2x80x9cWho caresxe2x80x9d is besides the point. Maybe if one wants to be a pop star, as in popular. Which is a problem for some, to seek popularity by making music, or to do it for some other reason, in my case for the hell of it.WhiteWarlock wrote: ↑Thu Feb 20, 2020 7:28 pm Go finger paint a Picaso with your noise if you want...
or have a computer render it into Noise...
or both...
Who the fuck cares...
Relates to my point above, pop musicians seek to entertain an audience, hence become popular, rich and famous. Anyone (and there are some if not many) wanting to achieve this via noise are IMO making a bad choice. Rap and EDM would be better, IMO.WhiteWarlock wrote: ↑Thu Feb 20, 2020 7:28 pm
Noise tends being "instant gratification" first and only take record & people could care less...
personally fucking despise playing impromptu noise shows anymore yet that's me...
been there done that more than enough times...
I'm not bothered about xe2x80x9cinstantxe2x80x9d or belated gratification. Again that is a rational reason for doing...
I think there is a truth in that, and in that a possible insight into reality rather that pop fiction.WhiteWarlock wrote: ↑Thu Feb 20, 2020 7:28 pm it's not satisfying for me at all anymore...
HNW is like being stuck on some default basic annoying cliche setting...
with a bag over your head
I sold the Synti AKS in order to buy a Sony Video camera as I wanted to explore video.WhiteWarlock wrote: ↑Thu Feb 20, 2020 7:28 pm Dude you should have stuck with "proto-industrial-SpaceRock"
(and not sold your VCS3 for pennys)
~shrug~
I think there is a fundamental difference in Art / Performance between one which is predominantly audience centred and one which is not. This might make for interesting debate.
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Re: what noise IS
I think conflating 'Noise Music' with other definitions, unpleasant sounds, random electrical signals.... needs to be careful, IMO. Noise music may use these features, and does, but does this deliberately. They are not unwanted. Which is why noise can be seen like a ready made as not a sonic (aesthetic) object. But of possibly posing an illogical question, or illogical statement.WhiteWarlock wrote: ↑Thu Feb 20, 2020 1:14 pm Noise is unwanted random electrical signals, fluctuating voltages, always present in a radio receiver in addition to the desired radio signal.....
In communication systems, noise is an error or undesired random disturbance of a useful information signal....
The message is there is no message. Pure existentialism.
xe2x80x9chttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Existence_precedes_essencexe2x80x9d
xe2x80x9cis a central claim of existentialism, which reverses the traditional philosophical view that the essence (the nature) of a thing is more fundamental and immutable than its existence (the mere fact of its being)xe2x80x9d
Hey! What noise IS. = The message is there is no message. Pure existentialism...
"Cage's 4'33" = 273 seconds xe2x88x92273.15xc2xb0 C = absolute zero."
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Social_Drift wrote: ↑Fri Feb 21, 2020 4:57 am what excites you.
in noise, not in general
make a list...
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Re: what noise IS
Tapes
Shows
Some of the people
The sounds
That its not mainstream
That its creepy and strange
That people take your words literally and anally obtusely while applying their personal pathology onto them while at the same time subtlety on purpose insulting you under the guise of trying to be reasonable and coming to conclusions that never conclude.
oh wait that last one is why I like Jliat
Shows
Some of the people
The sounds
That its not mainstream
That its creepy and strange
That people take your words literally and anally obtusely while applying their personal pathology onto them while at the same time subtlety on purpose insulting you under the guise of trying to be reasonable and coming to conclusions that never conclude.
oh wait that last one is why I like Jliat
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