So what's up with bandcamp

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So what's up with bandcamp

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I've been reading that tracks / albums / labels with tags such as #noise #hnw etc are being removed from search results and having content deleted.

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Bandcamp has been a rock for underground music, but if they start pulling shit like this its going to effect a lot of people
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:viking: WHOAH WTF Seriously... ugh...
guess will have to make BandKampf clone then... what pain...
more PHP projects... that was sort of on my list anyways...
yet why the censorship of noise???!
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Soloman Tump wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2020 1:23 am I've been reading that tracks / albums / labels with tags such as #noise #hnw etc are being removed from search results and having content deleted.
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BTW thanks for link...
just emailed them regarding doing modified S&S split tape projects...
hmmm maybe it's time for re-animating my old S&M
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Think maybe because to an algorithm a lot of the material is the same?

Lets be honest..too much HNW is essentially the same sounds with different titles.

Why have numerous..actually insane... amounts of 30min to hour long blocks of the same data on your servers?

Also samples are probably a part of it maybe?

Edit...read the tweet.
Oh well...this won't be the first time loads of music has been scrubbed...remember Myspace?
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I have tapes for sale or trade...that solves this problem.
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HNW tag works again, it was just either a server issue or 'hnw' was accidentally lumped in with genuinely 'bad'/spam tags and that's been fixed due to people pointing out the issue. 'harsh noise wall' and other tags were never 'censored' at all anyway so i doubt it was intentional. Hopefully hnw snowflakes will get hte message and can stop wining about 'HOW UNFAIR, IT'S TERRIBLE LIBERAL CENSORSHIP THAT A PRIVATE COMMERCIAL COMPANY HOSTING MY UNPROFITABLE MUSIC BASICALLY FOR FREE SHOULD DISALLOW MY WHITE POWER PRO-CHILD-ABUSE ALBUM WITH EXTREME NSBM PORN ON THE COVER, I DONT SEE HOW ANYONE COULD HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. ;__; " :D
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This is surprising. I have a decent amount of noise releases in my Bandcamp collection. As far as I can tell, nothing has been retroactively removed. Maybe they're purging things that aren't selling?
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please post links to white power pro-child-abuse albums with extreme nsbm porn on the covers
tried to locate some using google but terrible liberal censorship won't let me :(
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melko wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2020 7:31 am please post links to white power pro-child-abuse albums with extreme nsbm porn on the covers
Please don't
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Re: So what's up with bandcamp

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Hopefully the Bandcamp thing is just a fluke, but RUBBISH brings up some interesting ideas
RUBBISH wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2020 8:40 am Think maybe because to an algorithm a lot of the material is the same?

Lets be honest..too much HNW is essentially the same sounds with different titles.
Why let an algorithm decide what's worthy of keeping? On the other hand, algorithms are used to generate today's pop music
RUBBISH wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2020 8:40 am Why have numerous..actually insane... amounts of 30min to hour long blocks of the same data on your servers?
Maybe. I mean, if Bandcamp lets anyone upload whatever they want, an hour-long recording at top quality might be ~300 MB on their servers. Seems big until you realize that (at the time of this writing) Amazon S3 pricing costs $0.023 per GB, or $0.008 per hour-long recording.
RUBBISH wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2020 8:40 am Also samples are probably a part of it maybe?
Maybe, but I'd expect them to go after other genres first, such as turntablism and especially vaporwave
RUBBISH wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2020 8:40 am Oh well...this won't be the first time loads of music has been scrubbed...remember Myspace?
That one was allegedly an accident caused by someone running tests in production with no backups. I'm still a bit upset about that.
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