what about stuff that isnt music and isnt noise either? SOUNDCORE!!!

This type of music tends to challenge the distinction that is made in conventional musical practices between musical and non-musical sound.

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NoiseWiki wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 4:22 am Terms that have been used for what I think you are trying to described are:

Experimental
Sound scapes
Sound sculpture
Variations...

Aural landscapes
Sonic sculptures
Sound poems
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diagram is wrong, music is a small subgenre of Noise
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timdrage wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 7:15 am diagram is wrong, music is a small subgenre of Noise
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timdrage wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 7:15 am diagram is wrong, music is a small subgenre of Noise
Absolute fact.
Noise is natural. Music is humans ordering noise. Music is an un-natural situation.
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RUBBISH wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 8:43 am
timdrage wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 7:15 am diagram is wrong, music is a small subgenre of Noise
Absolute fact.
Noise is natural. Music is humans ordering noise. Music is an un-natural situation.
Jliat alert! ;-)
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NoiseWiki wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 9:59 am
RUBBISH wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 8:43 am
timdrage wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 7:15 am diagram is wrong, music is a small subgenre of Noise
Absolute fact.
Noise is natural. Music is humans ordering noise. Music is an un-natural situation.
Jliat alert! ;-)

Exactly what I was thinking when I wrote that...too bad I can't elucidate at his level.

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RUBBISH wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 10:12 am
On a positive note I do enjoy the newer members discussion On this...y'all are doing good.
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I definitely would rather hear what they think about it than jliat.. lol
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I like the multi-dimensional model, but it would quickly become cumbersome and complex.

The point about music being effectively a 'sub-genre' of noise, in my opinion, is arguably a more pragmatic view, and one that affords us an existing system of categorization to play with.

As for the original idea of "soundcore": There are more than enough -core's already in existence, and the creation of one to categorize an apparently vaporous, non-specific group of sound seems like more effort than it's worth.

On the other hand, why not just create your own material based on your idea of "soundcore" and then start releasing it? I did it with "Extreme Noise" (by which, I meant harsh noise, mastered to 0dB, a'la Merzbow's "Pulse Demon") on Smell the Stench, and it ended up becoming a thing on other people's releases.

If you're able to create a distinctive, unique sound that, to your ears, fulfills your criteria for "soundcore", then why not?
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No more xe2x80x9c-corexe2x80x9d sub genres, please. That shit died out in the early 2010xe2x80x99s for a reason.
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When I think "-core", I think Brokencyde and I find myself drawn to stabbing my ears with hot knitting needles.
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