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Nothing: Some notes taken from Heidegger's What is Metaphysics? (apologies xe2x80x93 my bad summary)

The proper study of a subject is a Science. Each science is specific.

It studies its subject and nothing else.

What this nothing is, it ignores.

Yet when it seeks its essence, what it is, it needs this nothing, what it is not.

So.

What is this nothing?
The above question deprives itself of its 'Nothing'

The IS (BEING, THING-ING) deprives the NOTHING.

Thinking is always about something. How then can we think about nothing.

This is logical, must this logic stop us?

Well logic uses negation!

Is nothing part of logic's negation? Or is negation part of this nothing.

Premise: Nothing is more 'original', foundational than negation.

Then this nothing is essential to logic's negation.

If we question this nothing, we must be able to encounter it.

xe2x80x9cNothing is the complete negation of the totality of beings.xe2x80x9d

How then can we know this nothing if we cannot know this complete totality of beings?

The totality of beings is the whole, undifferentiated A Unity.

Boredom. We can be bored with a thing.

We can be bored with everything, a profound boredom. Nothing can present itself as not being boring.

This boredom is bored with the Whole, the undifferentiated unity, the totality if beings. (things).

This totality conceals the nothing we seek.

Can we experience this nothing in the face of this experience of the whole.

Yes xe2x80x93 in profound anxiety.

Anxiety with what, in particular.

With nothing in particular, with nothing, with anxiety of the whole.

This reveals the nothing.

In profound anxiety we experience the nothing.

This doesn't annihilate being as a whole.

This nothing annihilates itself, we experience this, and so it reveals fully beings as such.
Beings as such not from our perspective but from the perspective of nothing.
Beings as they are - strange xe2x80x93 different....

Only from this ground of nothing can we see the essence of being.

To BE, is to be held over into this nothing. To be there, Dasein. Authentic 'Being'.

This is transcendence, to be above all.

The revelation of nothing = no selfhood, but experience of nothing and so of freedom.

This opening of being to nothing is rare.

We normally bother with trivial particulars day to day.

Superficial.

Nothing then permeates metaphysics, and metaphysics is the knowing of the underlying and foundation of reality.
"Cage's 4'33" = 273 seconds xe2x88x92273.15xc2xb0 C = absolute zero."
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When Jerry Seinfeld was asked if his show was really about nothing he answered.

"No its about people being jerks"

That Heidegger sounds like a more anal depressed Larry David aka George Costanza on Seinfeld.

Why do all these philosophers you quote come off as people you wouldn't want to spend too much time with. God what wet mops...oh look Nietzsche and Heidegger just showed up...partys over...last week Sarte ruined our riparian luncheon.
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To me all this nothing depressing shit is self evident.

I don't bother investing into this stuff from other people.
I can live it.
I need some forward positive material when I get into things like this.

remember I am not an atheist not even really agnostic.

To me a lot of this philosophy is just someone analyzing their self and then being pretentious ego maniacs with low self esteem that aren't blessed with the creativity to make music art noise they write books trying to push thier personal shit on the public in that way.

I use noise to push my pretentious selfish fueled by a strange sense of self personal crap on the public.
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RUBBISH wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 12:33 pm When Jerry Seinfeld was asked if his show was really about nothing he answered.

"No its about people being jerks"

That Heidegger sounds like a more anal depressed Larry David aka George Costanza on Seinfeld.

Why do all these philosophers you quote come off as people you wouldn't want to spend too much time with. God what wet mops...oh look Nietzsche and Heidegger just showed up...partys over...last week Sarte ruined our riparian luncheon.
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They tell it as it is. It happens to be unpleasant. Ergo churches, Alcohol dugs, sex and hedonist escapism. The feeble lies of politicians who promise heaven on earth. You don't have to buy into it or read it, I posted this in response to your dismissal of 'Nothing'.
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RUBBISH wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 12:46 pm To me all this nothing depressing shit is self evident.
Sure, at one time it wasn't. As you say there are trend followers and trend setters. Existentialism was a trend - those guys set the trend. That its self evident is that its been made so. Unless you think you dress, act and think as you do regardless of the culture and history you are in.
RUBBISH wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 12:46 pm

I don't bother investing into this stuff from other people.
I can live it.
I need some forward positive material when I get into things like this.

remember I am not an atheist not even really agnostic.

To me a lot of this philosophy is just someone analyzing their self and then being pretentious ego maniacs with low self esteem that aren't blessed with the creativity to make music art noise they write books trying to push thier personal shit on the public in that way.

I use noise to push my pretentious selfish fueled by a strange sense of self personal crap on the public.
All the above amounts to you believing in your personal, and total freedom. You think you arrived there out of the blue, just as your choice of pants, the fact you wear pants... the fact you feel free not to if you want. This is the existential freedom.

You think you arrived at it yourself. Que "cerulean blue scene in the devil wears prada
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Naw..you're looking for heroes.

You repeatedly use rhetorical dogma and quotes from people that are Shitheads..Nietzsche is a fucking Shithead. Yeah I agree with some of his shit head shit but buttfuck his dead subhuman ass.


I'm looking for truth not regurgitated dogma from depressing dead assholes.
I know you've been trained.
Your style of writing on here is stereotypical of a certain type of British person that is commonly mocked on your tv programmes and in films but can't describe it without being very mean so I wont.
You think you aren't burdened with your upper class twit run culture. You are.

You think you are telling me something I dont know?
..oh shit...
Thats it...wow how fucked was your
childhood. Public or private schools?
Stranger or a realitive?
Not to be cruel and perverse but ahahahaha youre just a damaged fuck up like me.
Sorry for laughing but I get it now.
This is your attempt at having control.
Again sorry...but you have no control here my friend...except for what you do..or maybe not ,maybe you have a condition?









Age 3 I knew I could do.magic if I tried hard enough.
I recall being age 1...yes a fucking infant.
Self evident from childhood..naturally
Not from hanging out being trendy trying to fuck people from the art school by being a pretentious prick puking Psuedo nutsy shit philosophy.
Since birth...I have what are called.power.doctors in my family and as long as I can recall people told me my mom was a witch. She does know if I'm pulling shit.
...of this and of me you have no control Jilat
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Ok enough of arguing over literally nothing ;-)
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