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Vinyl is Toxic

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what's up with his eyebrow?

in all seriousness, I love this video. I was done with vinyl years ago and don't miss it one bit.
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FAP wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:16 pm what's up with his eyebrow?

in all seriousness, I love this video. I was done with vinyl years ago and don't miss it one bit.
I'm gonna have to do my own air quality test now.. I think I have the same meter he is using
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You can drink enough water that it becomes 'toxic' and it kills you.

Not only records(vinyl and polystyrene..shellac is cool) ANY plastic out gasses all manner of nasty chemicals so if you collect anything made of plastic you are probably breathing that stuff in.


What about the chemicals in the ink on t-shirts? Traditional inks are toxic as hell.
Scrolled through the comments...yep.
T shirt and other inks are toxic.
I love the smell of a freshly inked press...ahhh mmmm death.
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FAP wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:16 pm what's up with his eyebrow?

Looks to be some sort of scar.
I was over scars years ago but I'm keeping all mine and still get some every now and then...here's my newest one. :)
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RUBBISH wrote: Thu Aug 27, 2020 3:50 am You can drink enough water that it becomes 'toxic' and it kills you.

Not only records(vinyl and polystyrene..shellac is cool) ANY plastic out gasses all manner of nasty chemicals so if you collect anything made of plastic you are probably breathing that stuff in.


What about the chemicals in the ink on t-shirts? Traditional inks are toxic as hell.
Scrolled through the comments...yep.
T shirt and other inks are toxic.
I love the smell of a freshly inked press...ahhh mmmm death.
Yeah.. vinyl records have been around for over a century and..
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NoiseWiki wrote: Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:02 am
RUBBISH wrote: Thu Aug 27, 2020 3:50 am You can drink enough water that it becomes 'toxic' and it kills you.

Not only records(vinyl and polystyrene..shellac is cool) ANY plastic out gasses all manner of nasty chemicals so if you collect anything made of plastic you are probably breathing that stuff in.


What about the chemicals in the ink on t-shirts? Traditional inks are toxic as hell.
Scrolled through the comments...yep.
T shirt and other inks are toxic.
I love the smell of a freshly inked press...ahhh mmmm death.
Yeah.. vinyl records have been around for over a century and..
Waters been around for A few billion years so... hump

On a side note I do believe Lucite is probably one of the most stable plastic products(one example: it was used to coat circuit boards for the space program for heat cold and vibration protection) but being hard doesn't have good sound properties as far as records are concerned...

A history of plastics.
https://www.eplastics.com/blog/plastics-history
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Well I ran my own test and guess what? It didn't start beeping at me. I did however notice higher levels with an older record that smelled moldy.

I'm not going to call this conclusive but I'd say that given that I have a similar meter made by the same company that he's using and I'm as much an expert as he is on the subject that there's probably nothing to worry about. Although I will say that he jumps to a conclusion early on which is that if there is a high PPM reading it's must be the PVC but I call bullshit on that because it could also be mold. rotshock
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NoiseWiki wrote: Fri Aug 28, 2020 1:09 pm Well I ran my own test and guess what? It didn't start beeping at me. I did however notice higher levels with an older record that smelled moldy.

I'm not going to call this conclusive but I'd say that given that I have a similar meter made by the same company that he's using and I'm as much an expert as he is on the subject that there's probably nothing to worry about. Although I will say that he jumps to a conclusion early on which is that if there is a high PPM reading it's must be the PVC but I call bullshit on that because it could also be mold. rotshock
I agree he didn't really or fully prove his point.

He should have tested older records.
A few from each decade starting with the 1950s and see what measurements he got from those.

Test a new record then test it a week later then a month later.

Maybe test some pvc pipes and a new shower curtain and some old and new action figures or other plastic toys.

A random assortment of plastic consumer goods of various types of plastics.

My point is they will emit fumes on some level even if its near undetectable until the plastic finally just turn to dust or slime...10,000 years from now.

Ever encounter plastics that have turned to slime like old spandex lycra or where it just crumbles like the plastic parts on my 1964 Chrysler Newport?
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RUBBISH wrote: Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:30 pm
I agree he didn't really or fully prove his point.
Yeah.. it just seems like a really high PPM and I have never heard any mention of this before except in manufacturing where you are heating or otherwise processing the material. I haven't had my 3d printer setup since I got this meter so I'd expect to see a high output with that thing running.

I'm not sure about the recycling thing either but his arguments about it as a format are valid. And really when comes down to it at this point all physical media is problematic unless you are looking purely at very long term storage and then I think vinyl might hold it's own. Digital mediums have lots of issues for long term storage and small glitches can wipe out entire libraries of music as opposed to just being a skip on a scratched record.. it's just that most music doesn't warrant that kind of preservation.

Oh also I performed my test in a room with thousands of records so if all of them were emitting a fraction of the gasses he was getting I imagine the air quality would be severely bad in that room and it's not and I have used this meter to get readings at other times for other reasons and it seems to work and did warn about bad air.
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